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#1

01.11.2023 18:59:02

Blue robe
Player

Level: 1
Profession: None
Residence: Rookgaard
Posts: 7

Re: Question external software


Hello guys.

I have a question related to using external software.

Can we use a software which read the process memory? It won't modify nothing, it only will read to get some information and do calculations ( exp per hour, skills, ...).

Would this software be legal?

Thank you!

#2

01.11.2023 19:03:17

Lord
God

Level: 300
Profession: Master Sorcerer
Residence: Edron
Posts: 142

Re: Question external software


I believe that you want to do it in good faith, but reading client memory is a form of illegal manipulation and is stricty prohibited.

#3

01.11.2023 19:12:34

Blue robe
Player

Level: 1
Profession: None
Residence: Rookgaard
Posts: 7

Re: Question external software


"Reading" is not strictly manipulating, according to rule d). I consider this action as using a scanner

#4

01.11.2023 19:19:52

Lord
God

Level: 300
Profession: Master Sorcerer
Residence: Edron
Posts: 142

Re: Question external software


Blue robe  wrote:

"Reading" is not strictly manipulating, according to rule d). I consider this action as using a scanner



But due to reading memory you can get advantages like battlelist alarms, getting sqms containing fishes etc.
I'm sorry but reading is just illegal per se

#5

01.11.2023 19:37:22

Blue robe
Player

Level: 1
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Residence: Rookgaard
Posts: 7

Re: Question external software


What if I asked you please? :)

I'm a really good person. I'll even publish the source code.

#6

02.11.2023 19:22:36

Blue robe
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Level: 1
Profession: None
Residence: Rookgaard
Posts: 7

Re: Question external software


Ok. So, out of jokes.

I believe that you (Kay/Lord or whoever they may be) have several friends playing on the server, and you've leaked the names of some hidden characters on accounts. So, you defend the use of an account scanner to prevent the secret from being revealed.

I keep I said before, reading is not manipulating as same way reading "who is online" page is not manipulate.

#7

02.11.2023 19:30:29

Lord
God

Level: 300
Profession: Master Sorcerer
Residence: Edron
Posts: 142

Re: Question external software


Reading private process memory isn't equal to reading public website


Besides, your accusations that we've leaked off someone's hidden characters are incorrect, which was explained in thread about scanners. Website is same for everyone over web, process virtual memory is individual per every machine, containing some private info about machine in memory and stack too
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#8

02.11.2023 19:48:10

Blue robe
Player

Level: 1
Profession: None
Residence: Rookgaard
Posts: 7

Re: Question external software


As I see this issue, in my book reading memory is not forbidden, with your own rules in my hand. So I will build that software. When I see reading is prohibited then I will stop doing that.

#9

02.11.2023 19:48:50

Kay
God

Level: 25
Profession: Elder Druid
Residence: Ab'Dendriel
Posts: 212

Re: Question external software


Blue robe  wrote:


I believe that you (Kay/Lord or whoever they may be) have several friends playing on the server, and you've leaked the names of some hidden characters on accounts. So, you defend the use of an account scanner to prevent the secret from being revealed.


Do you also believe in a flat Earth?

#10

02.11.2023 19:55:55

Blue robe
Player

Level: 1
Profession: None
Residence: Rookgaard
Posts: 7

Re: Question external software


I think those types of comments are out of place.  I'm serious and I'm being respectful.

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